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  1. #19
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    1.15
    The similar size and distance of the sun and moon
    The Qur'an has statements about the end of the world that are much as one would expect if the author believed the sun and moon to be of similar size and a similar distance from Earth.

    (And the moon darkens And the sun and the moon are joined.)
    Qur'an 75:8-9
    Answer
    I'm very much astonished; where is anything in the aya which says "similar size and distance of the sun and moon"
    so this is the explanation of the aya 75:8-9 by the late Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, the interpreter of the Quran and the Bible
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    And the moon is cleft [into two halves.] b

    9
    And the sun and moon are joined together c}
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    b i.e. the affliction that will befall the moon and divide it into two halves
    c That is because of the finishing of the earth gravity, at that time the sun will draw it to itself and the moon will stick to it, then Doomsday occur, the solar system including the earth will tear up, so the living beings will die and souls will scatter in the space; so at that time

    So such manifestation of the binary fission of the Moon into two halves, then its attraction by the sun which will swallow it; all these will be some of the portents of Doomsday, i.e. heralding the coming of Doomsday

    The Universe and the Quran 4

    While about the distance and the size of either of the sun and moon; it is only manifested in the eclipse of moon and sun, so that the moon will cover the disc of the sun, and the earth will cover the disc of the moon, and this indeed is a divine miracle indicating the might and wisdom of God, so that the distances and the sizes of sun, earth and moon are related to each other and such ratio will bring about such phenomenon as the eclipse of the moon and the sun. Although the sun is much much bigger than earth, and earth is much bigger also than moon
    التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة إبن سينا ; 09-21-2015 الساعة 11:08 PM
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    1.16
    Sky is a Tent/Dome
    A common myth at the time of the Quran's composition was that the sky or heavens were held up with pillars. Many Bedouin people living in Arabia imagined the sky as a large tent covering, similar to the tents they used. The author repeats this myth by describing the sky as being "raised" above the earth

    (It is He Who made the Earth a couch for you, and the sky a dome)
    Qur'an 2:22
    (Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see)
    Qur'an 13:2
    In another verse, the author says that the sky has a covering

    (And when the heaven has its covering removed)
    Qur'an 81:11

    Answer
    The ayat that are Mutashabihat or ambiguous, which even Muslims do not know their exact meaning; so such atheists and Quran adversaries go to such ayat for two purposes
    1
    To bar people from God's religion, by saying to them, that such ayat cannot be any revelation from God, but are the words invented by Mohammed himself
    2
    To try to interpret such ayat, while none but God alone knows their implications

    Once again we come here to declare that the sky or heaven here means the gaseous layers of the high atmosphere, above the region of the cloud, because the cloud and the wind belong to the troposphere in which the air gases are in mixture, while above the cloud the atmosphere is calm and there is not wind to mix its gases (therefore, jet airplanes prefer to go to this region above the cloud where it is steady and no wind is there in the stratosphere

    So the harmful gases: poisonous and suffocating: God made such gases light in weight and so they raised up in the atmosphere and that's why God said they are like the tent but without pillars that people can see (and they may discover them later on)
    The Universe and the Quran


    Now, here is the explanation of the ayat mentioned by the atheist, and the interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly

    Qur'an 2:22
    [God] Who made, for you, the earth covered [with an earthy layer suitable for cultivation and dwelling], and [made] the sky built a [as gaseous layers packed one above another]
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    a The "building" is the packing, and the "sky" is the gaseous lay
    It means: He raised the gaseous layers one above another; because He made the suffocating gases light in weight so they went up, and made the useful gases heavy so they became low


    Qur'an 13:2
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    God it is Who raised up the [gaseous d] heavens without any pillars e, about which you may have knowledge [in the future] f
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    d Such gases that are harmful to man
    e Because He made the [gases] light in weight so they rose up from the earth lest people should perish because of their suffocating and poisoning gases.
    f The Arabic word in the aya means the knowledge

    The ‘heavens’ here means the atmosphere of the earth, and they are seven gaseous layers, so they are mentioned here in plural, while they are mentioned in singular in the Quran 55: 7, which means
    (And the firmament has He raised high, and He has brought down the Law [of justice included in the heavenly scriptures.])


    81:11
    {11. And when the heaven shall be stripped off [the earth.] m}
    .................................................. .....................
    m i.e. disjoined or separated from it
    The interpreter have previously said that the material is the mold of the ethereal; so that inside every material object, an identical ethereal skeleton will form inside it, which will be a true copy of it, but only that the first one is material and the second one is ethereal. Moreover, the material will tear up and disappear, while the ethereal will remain preserving its shape and it will not tear up neither will vanish forever
    Therefore, when the earth tears up, a new ethereal layer will separate from it which will be the issue of the earth, and this new layer will raise up to join the seven ethereal heavens to be eight ethereal heavens
    http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...hereal_Heavens

    The indication of this is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 69: 17, which means
    (And above the [souls] on that Day [of Doom] will eight [ethereal heavens] bear the Throne of your Lord.)
    While now, seven heavens bear it; as in His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 23: 86, which means
    (Say: "Who is the Lord of the seven [ethereal] heavens, and the Lord of the Throne [of Glory] Supreme")

    However, these ayat have been explained in details in the book: The Universe and the Quran
    التعديل الأخير تم بواسطة إبن سينا ; 09-21-2015 الساعة 11:38 PM
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    1.17 Sky Guards the Earth
    Asteroids and meteorites have penetrated the atmosphere and hit the earth throughout the course of history. This includes the massive meteorite that hit near the Yucatأ،n Peninsula 65 million years which killed off numerous species including most dinosaurs. There is no guardian, whatsoever, that prevents these types of events form happening.

    (And We have made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things (point to)
    Qur'an 21:32

    The answer:
    The atheists here do clearly try to mislead people, with their misinterpretation on account of their ignorance about the explanation of this great aya of the Quran.
    This is its interpretation according to the late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible, Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:

    Qur'an 21:32
    {32. And We have made the sky d a ceiling e: ‘protective and protected’f, while they are turning away from its portents. g}
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    d He means, by it, the gaseous layers that are above the air layer; they are suffocating and poisonous gases.
    e Above the earth.
    f Its implication: a protective ceiling which also is preserved or kept from falling.
    ‘Protective’ because it averts from us the hazard of the harmful radiations; and ‘Protected’: from the ascension of genies and devils to it.
    So the sky [or the gaseous heaven] averts from us the hazard of the harmful radiations; so that we are safe of their hazards, because we live on the earth under the protection of its atmosphere which does not allow such radiations. In this respect it is like the filter which allows pure water for drinkers without pollutants and harmful salts.
    So the atmospheric air does filter the sun rays from most of its ultraviolet rays and from almost all fatal gamma rays, cosmic rays and X- rays with very short waves, by shuttering them in the higher layers, so that they will not reach the earth.

    The ultraviolet rays are the mildest radiation with short waves, and less in harm to the human body, and are the nearest in the respect of the wave length to the colored radiations.
    g It means: While [And in spite of all this] they are turning away from its portents.

    So where have the atheist gone with their fallacy? It is the gaseous layers of the atmosphere and its role in protecting the earth from the hazardous and dangerous rays.

    The Universe and the Quran
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    1.18 Sky can Fall Down on People
    The Qur'an author thought that the sky is like a ceiling that can fall on someone while the earth can swallow someone too. This is obviously impossible as the earth's atmosphere is simply made of gas.

    See they not what is before them and behind them, of the sky and the earth? If We wished, We could cause the earth to swallow them up, or cause a piece of the sky to fall upon them. Verily in this is a Sign for every devotee that turns to Allah (in repentance).
    Qur'an 34:9

    ِAnswer:
    Very strange are the words of the atheist and the Quran adversaries: how they are perverted.

    This is the explanation of the aya according to Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly

    Qur'an 34:9
    {[Then God – be glorified – started to admonish and instruct the associaters, and He said:]
    9. Have they not considered what [existing creatures] are now present and what [creatures perished] before them in the sky a and the earth b?
    c Did We will, We would cleave the land open with them [as did We do to Korah and others], or We would bring down on them fragments from the sky [and destroy them, as did We do to Lot’s people and to the ‘host of the elephant’.]
    Surely, in that is an indicative sign [of Our might] for every devoted servant that turns to God [in repentance and obedience.] }
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    a Of birds flying in it.
    b Of beasts moving on it.
    The meaning: Haven’t they observed how life renews in the sky with its birds, and on the earth with its beasts; so that anyone of them is slain or dies, others form instead of them and carry out the work instead of them: birds lay eggs that hatch and beasts bear and give birth; and as such every day a new life forms including birds, animals and man; therefore, why do they deny the renewal of life while they daily see this with their own eyes.
    c Then God – be glorified – started to threaten them with punishment after He explained to them the evidences about the renewal ...

    So the fragments that fall from the sky are the meteorites or meteoritic rocks, and in fact God destroyed many nations of the disbelievers by the showers of rocks; e.g. Lot's people who inhabited the region of the Dead Sea, so they were terminated by the earthquake, then cleavage so that water covered their five cities Sodom and Ghomorrah and the others which became the Dead Sea, then showers of stones fell down from the sky on those who were not killed by the earthquake. In fact, rocks are found in large numbers scattered around that area of the Dead Sea.

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    1.19 Sky can be Rolled Up
    This is another verse implying that the sky or heaven is something solid.

    The Day when We shall roll up the heavens as a recorder rolleth up a written scroll.
    Qur'an 21:104

    Answer:
    [Disproving the idea that the sky consists of one or more hard solid layers]:
    Many ayat prove that the sky or heaven is not solid.
    The Universe and the Quran

    Now this is the explanation of the aya 21: 104
    {104. The day when We will fold the [gaseous] heaven [into a blend of gases or: smoke] a as does the 'sijill' fold [and blend] the 'writing-materials.'
    As did We start [its] first creation [from smoke], will We turn it back again [into smoke] – a promise [binding] upon Us; surely We are going to perform it [as did We before.]}
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    a The ‘sky’ here is the gaseous layers.
    And the ‘sijill’ is the large bucket made of leather and used for irrigating the farm and garden and to take water out of the well, and when it will be perforated, it cannot be used for carrying water; therefore, it will be used for such functions as keeping their ‘writing’ materials.
    The Arabic word in the aya means: “We will fold” and indicates the decline and deterioration.
    And their ‘writings’ were:
    on bones of animals like the shoulder blade bone and

    The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

    And if you want to see the picture of such smoke, you will find it has now happened in the planet Venus, which its gases of the atmosphere have been mixed into a dark tahini- colored smoke.
    Solar System Exploration
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    1.20 Ignorance of the North and South Poles
    In polar regions, the longevity of day and night vary during summer and winter. The day gets shorter and shorter in winter until there are days or weeks of uninterrupted night. At the poles themselves, day and night alternately last for six months and all phases of the moon occur several times between sunrise and sunset. The author of the Qur'an did not know about this and he only repeated earlier geocentric ideas.

    It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.
    Qur'an 36:40

    Answer:
    I don't know what is the relation of this great aya to the North and South Poles!?
    Now this is the interpretation of this great aya of the Quran, by the late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:

    Qur'an 36:40
    { 40. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon k, neither does the night outstrip the day l; but each [of the sun, the moon and the earth with its night and day] is swimming along into a [specific] orbit. m}
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    k It means: In spite of the extent of the sun and its powerful gravity and heat, and in spite of that the moon is small and without internal heat and being a gravitated object; in spite of all this, the sun cannot draw the moon to it; that is because the moon is far from the sun and near to the earth. This is as such only according to Our wisdom and estimation.
    l So as to hide it from sight, but the night is followed by the day, in spite of that the entire space is dark and all of it is night; so the day accompanies the night and does not leave it.
    m Therefore, the sun swims or floats in the space and circles around the fixed star which gravitates it, the moon swims in the space and circles around the earth, and the earth swims in the space and spins around its axis so that the night and day will form from its spinning, and it circles around the sun and so the four seasons will form.
    So blessed be God the Lord of the worlds, the Creator of suns and moons and the Maker of the night and day, as a mercy to the worlds and a bounty to the grateful.

    If you like to know what is the meaning of that such celestial objects as the sun, earth and moon are swimming each in an orbit; see the explanation here:

    The Universe and the Quran

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    The plain and the ambiguous ayat of the Quran

    Glory be to God Who revealed the Quran ayat in two categories: plain and ambiguous; the reason for revealing the ambiguous ayat is:
    The Quran is a scientific miracle; it is a miracle in the eloquence of the Arabic language; it includes foretelling about the future, and telling about the past nations and their apostles and prophets, in addition to the statements of religion and what is lawful and what is unlawful; it includes also the correction of the distorted previous Torah and Gospel (most of which are included in the Holy Bible.)
    The reason for revealing the Quran in two categories:
    That was according to customs of the Arab: they were eloquent in language and clever at solving puzzles: they speak among themselves with puzzles and symbols, and speak in a way which they understand, while the stranger will not understand.

    E.g. a sheikh of a tribe in Iraq was arrested by the English when they occupied Iraq in the early years of the twentieth century; so his relatives came to visit him in the prison; the spies of the English were present; the sheikh said to his relatives: I want ten gold coins early next morning!
    This was a symbol; the spies did not understand, while his relatives understood that he wanted ten brave men, who in fact came next morning and were able and sufficient to liberate him from his prison.

    Another e.g. Muhalhil, who was one of the brave men in the pre-Islam period became old and he was on journey, and two slaves accompanied him; these two slaves intended to kill him, but he was alert to their intention, so he said to them:
    I want you, if I die, to go to the village where my daughters are dwelling, and tell them this poetry:
    O you, two daughters!
    So they killed him and went to the two daughters and said: you father died and recommended us to tell you this poetry:
    O you, two daughters!
    The daughters captured them and told the tribe: these two slaves killed our father.
    The Judge asked them: How do you know this?
    They said: This poetry is defective: it implies: O you two daughters ==== your father has been killed
    Of course the poetry is in Arabic, not in English.

    And there are many other examples.

    So God - be glorified - revealed the Quran in accordance with their customs of the eloquence of language and the puzzles.
    That is because they said: Mohammed has invented this Quran of his own accord and it is not from God; so God told them: if you claim that the Quran is invented by Mohammed himself, then do like him because he is one of you, and God challenged them to do like the Quran and to produce one aya like the plain ayat of the Quran in their eloquence of language,
    or to solve one of its puzzles; because they were eloquent in language and poetry and because they were clever at solving puzzles.

    But were unable to do any of these challenges.

    Therefore, He told them that He will expound to them in the future about the explanation of the ambiguous ayat which they were unable to understand, because of their defective knowledge at that time; so that the explanation will prove the authenticity of the Quran and the truthfulness of God's messenger Mohammed son of Abdullah - salam to him.

    As in His saying in the Quran 38: 88
    { 88. And you [people] shall surely come to know the explanation of [the ambiguous ayat of the Quran], after [a long period of] time d.}
    .................................................. ........................
    The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

    d The meaning: You will know the explanation of the ambiguous ayat of the Quran which you have denied and ridiculed.

    To see about the interpretation of this aya and of some other related ayat in this link:
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    2.1 Evolution

    The Qur'an presupposes a creationist view of life on earth. Its understanding of the history of human life is incompatible with the overwhelming scientific evidence that humans have evolved from prior life forms, over the course of millions of years, through natural selection [1]. While some Muslims accept the theory of evolution, most reject it in favor of a creationist world view. Opinion polls show that the majority of Muslims agree Islam and evolution are not compatible.

    Answer: The theory of Evolution is wrong, in spite of that there has been much endeavor to convince people about it as if it is a fact that cannot be wrong.
    The true thing is that God - be glorified - creates whatever He likes: a male and a female of the species which will reproduce.
    http://www.quran-ayat.com/retort/ind...h_My_Own_Eyes_

    And this explains why every now and then a new species may be discovered in some sites which none of such species existed.
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    2.1.1 Human Creation from Clay
    The Qur’an state that humans were created instantaneously from mud or clay. There is no indication that the author is aware of the evolution of human life over millions of years nor our common ancestry with apes and primates.

    We created man from sounding clay, from mud molded into shape;
    Qur'an 15:26
    To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter, He saith to it: "Be," and it is.
    Qur'an 2:117

    Answer:
    The Evolution and Natural Selection theory is wrong, and not logical. Their intention from such theory is to deny the existence of the Creator.

    This is the explanation of these two ayat according to the inspired interpreter of the Quran and the Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

    Qur'an 15:26
    { 26. And We created man a from a black putrid clay b.}
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    a i.e. Adam.
    b Literally the word in Arabic, is the mud formed by scanty water, that is the little water, which remains of the rain in pits.
    Then when this water was mixed with the decayed corpses, it became putrid, and became a black and offensive mud.
    http://www.quran-ayat.com/retort/ind..._Man_from_Clay

    The Universe and the Quran 2

    The Universe and the Quran 2

    The Universe and the Quran 2

    I don't know what is the relation of the following aya with the evolution and the creation of Adam!?

    Qur'an 2:117
    { 118. The Originator [and Perfecter] of the heavens and the earth d! And when He decrees an affair [to destroy any thing e], He merely says to it "Be [a wreckage!]" and it is [as He liked.]f}
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    d i.e. He created them in a wonderful form and perfected their creation: so that He made the earth and the planets swim in the space and circle around the sun, and do not fall or escape but move perfectly and show us the time, while we move on the earth safely from place to place.
    e after He perfected it marvelously.
    f so that He terminated fifty thousand person, leaving one hundred thousand persons homeless in Iran, Khorasan in August of this year 1968; and all of that occurred in one minute by an earthquake.

    The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, may God's mercy be on his soul.
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    2.1.2 First Humans: Adam and Eve
    The Qur’an and Hadith contains stories concerning the 'first humans' and how all people are descended from these two earliest ancestors. It states that humans were created in a garden (paradise) and then brought to earth fully formed. This view of the origins of human life is clearly contradicted by the numerous fossils of pre-homosapien species that lived on earth for millions of years before modern humans first evolved.[2]

    "He it is Who created you from a single being, and of the same (kind) did He make his mate,"
    Qur'an 7:189
    Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah 's Apostle said, "Treat women nicely, for a women is created from a rib, and the most curved portion of the rib is its upper portion, so, if you should try to straighten it, it will break, but if you leave it as it is, it will remain crooked. So treat women nicely."
    Sahih Bukhari 4:55:548
    Some Muslim apologists will claim the view of two ancestral “parents” is consistent with recent scientific findings that show a common female and male ancestor of all modern humans. They often exploit the confusion caused by scientists referring to these genetic ancestors as Mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosomal Adam. These two individuals bear little resemblance to the Quranic account as they are simply the last common male and female ancestors of everyone alive today, not of all humans in history. The Qur'an clearly states Eve was created later than Adam, however Mitochondrial Eve lived some 50,000 to 80,000 years earlier than Y-chromosomal Adam.[3] Genetic evidence overwhelmingly indicates that humans diverged from earlier species as a population, not a single couple. [4]

    Answer:
    Adam was not the first human created on earth; he was the father of the latest race: the Caucasian or White Race; while the three other human races had been created before the creation of Adam by thousands of years. Therefore, Adam was the 'successor' in earth of those races that had inhabited that region where he was created.
    The Universe and the Quran 2

    Moreover, Adam was created in a garden on one of the earth mountains; i.e. Adam was created in one of the earth gardens which was situated on one of the earth mountains, and he was not created in heaven; for the Paradise or Garden of heaven is spiritual ethereal, to which the souls and angels are admitted.
    The Universe and the Quran 2

    On the other hand, Adam was created from a putrid decayed organic substance: the decayed remnant of dead corpse of a dead man in a grave; that man was one of the inhabitants of some of the torn up planets of the previous solar system that had been in existence before our present solar system.

    God - be glorified - created Eve from the same decayed organic substance; their creation took place inside a grave: in the darkness.
    http://www.quran-ayat.com/retort/ind..._Man_from_Clay
    http://www.quran-ayat.com/retort/ind...ss_of_Creation

    What hadiths are narrated about creating Eve from the rib of Adam; such hadiths are fabricated, and Muslims actully took them from the 'Israeli' narrations: in the Torah of Ezra: God cast sleep on Adam then he withdrew one of his ribs out of which He formed Eve; nothing of this is in the Glorious Quran.
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    2.1.3 Humans Created in Paradise and then Brought to Earth
    The author of the Qur'an explicitly states that humans were first created outside of the earth and then only later sent down to live on the planet after being expelled from paradise. We have no evidence that humans ever lived in a terrestrial or extra-terrestrial paradise. In fact, all evidence points to primitive humanoids living in caves for tens of thousands of years before settling into more permanent dwellings. [5]
    "Then did Satan make them slip from the (garden), and get them out of the state (of felicity) in which they had been. We said: 'Get ye down, all (ye people), with enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood - for a time.'
    Qur'an 2:36
    Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The best day on which the sun has risen is Friday; on it Adam was created, on it he was made to enter Paradise, on it he. was expelled from it.
    Sahih Muslim 4:1856

    Answer:
    Adam was created on earth, not in heaven; heaven or Paradise or Garden is ethereal spiritual not material.
    Adam and Eve were created in one of the earth gardens which was situated on one of the earth mountains; then when Adam disobeyed God and approached the Blackberry tree which tore his clothes and the clothes of Eve so their shame appeared to them.
    So Adam was punished and driven out of that garden which was on the mountain.
    The water springs found some ways and started to spring in the plain land below that mountain, so the trees dried up and Adam complained to his Lord of thirst and shortage of food; therefore, God commanded him to go down from that mountain to the plain land, and he was obliged to descend from that mountain together with Eve, the cattle which God created for him in that garden and the birds; so all of them went down from that mountain to the plain land, then reproduced and spread throughout the earth.

    The interpretation is according to the inspired interpreter of the Quran and the Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:
    Qur'an 2:36
    (( 36. And We said: "O Adam! Dwell together with your wife in the garden [that was on one of the earth mountains] f,
    and eat you [both] amply g [of the fruits] thereof where you please;
    but approach not this tree h lest you should then become the wrong-doers i."))
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    f God – be glorified – created Adam and Eve on one of the earth mountains which included much of trees and fruits, many water-springs and many kinds of birds and cattle.
    That mountain was a portion of a planet that had been inhabited in the past and included man, animal, plant and other kinds of living beings; then when its Doomsday occurred, it broke up and became meteorites: some of which fell on our earth to become the mountains.
    Then when rain came down on those mountains, which included the seeds of trees and plants, they started to plant and grow and became gardens on those mountains.

    God – be glorified – said in the Quran 13: 4, that which means:
    (There are, in the earth, pieces [which were not from the earth in origin, but were in the space then fell on the earth and became mountains] adjacent to each other, and gardens of fruits)
    http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/n..._Transmissible
    Then when the plants and trees grew on those mountains, God created many kinds of the birds and the cattle, and God created Adam and Eve on one of those mountains.

    g It means: Eat of the fruits, the birds and the cattle of the garden and drink of the milk of its cattle: a profuse provision without toiling.
    h Because it had spikes that would tear their dresses and wound their hands in case they would eat of its fruit; therefore, God forbade them to approach it; it was the blackberry tree.
    i You would wrong yourselves by eating of its fruit.

    [The interpreter Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, was the first one to differentiate between "approaching it" and "eating of it"; and it was the blackberry tree which includes spikes, and it is not the apple tree which is a good tree, its fruit is delicious, it has no spikes, and its fruit is not forbidden till today; while till today the blackberry has spikes which te
    ar the dress and wound the hand. – the commentator.]

    The tree which God forbade Adam to approach was not the apple, but was the blackberry tree, which is used as a fence of gardens to ward off the wild animals, because it has spikes; such spikes will tear the dress or the clothes.
    So this was the trial of Adam; would he comply or not; but he forgot God's forbidding and obeyed the suggestion of Satan, so he approached the tree which tore his clothes with its spikes, therefore his shame appeared to Eve, as did the shame of Eve appeared to Adam.
    So it was Adam who ate first of that tree, then he deceived Eve to eat of it, and she ate of it.
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    Geocentricism

    The Qur'an mentions numerous times that the sun and the moon travel in an orbit, but does not mention once that the earth does too. This is consistent with a earth-centered (geocentric) view of the cosmos that places a motionless earth at the center of the universe and all "heavenly bodies" travel around the earth

    Answer
    What a deduction! So if the Quran does not mention the earth travels in an orbit, it means: it states that the earth does not move in an orbit
    If God tells people: the earth travels in an orbit around the sun, will they believe? For without mentioning this, and people denied, so if he tells them that what they say
    To this meaning, Jesus Christ said: If I tell you now many things you will not understand, but when the Paraclete will come, he will tell you
    So what God told them about the astronomical events and facts, all that in order that they would glorify God and believe
    So most of such observations and facts, He mentioned to them in an allegorical way, so that in the future they are going to understand
    Moreover, a large number of the Quran ayat speak about the universe, more than all the other heavenly books, because the Quran is the last heavenly book which precedes Doomsday
    So here is the interpretation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, of the ayat to which they object
    Qur'an 36:37-38
    37

    And a sign for them [indicating Our might] is the night [darkness] from which We withdraw the day [: the sun light g] and they will then be in darkness
    38
    And the sun –– it runs to a fixed resting-place h; such [perfection] is the ordaining of the All- Mighty, the All-Knowing
    ………………………………………………………………..
    g To become night, because of the rotation of the earth around its axis
    h Hassan, the son of Abbas, Ali the son of Hussein, Abu Jafa the Baqir, Jafa the Sadiq, Iqrima, the son of Masuod and Ata: all these read (And the sun –– it runs without resting); which means
    The sun keeps up moving around itself without any rest from its movement; i.e. it will not stop moving even though it will explode, because then it will be planets following its explosion and tearing up; such planets will rotate around themselves and around the new sun, and such planets will not have any rest from movement even though their Doomsday comes and they will tear up, because then they will be meteorites which will not have any rest because they rotate around the new planets, until they will tear up and become scattered dust
    On the other hand if we consider the apparent meaning of the aya: (And the sun –– it runs to a fixed resting-place); the meaning will then be
    The sun circles around a fixed star which is much bigger than it and which attracts it with its gravity; so that the sun moves and that star is its resting-place. Astronomers believe that the sun and its planets circle around a fixed star much bigger than it, which is situated in the Pleiades, and it completes its circle around it in thirty years
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    Qur'an 36:40

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    It is not for the sun to overtake the moon k, neither does the night outstrip the day l ; but each [of the sun, the moon and the earth with its night and day] is swimming along into a [specific] orbit. m
    ……………………………………………………………..
    k It means: In spite of the extent of the sun and its powerful gravity and heat, and in spite of that the moon is small and without internal heat and being a gravitated object; in spite of all this, the sun cannot draw the moon to it; that is because the moon is far from the sun and near to the earth. This is as such only according to Our wisdom and estimation
    l So as to hide it from sight, but the night is followed by the day, in spite of that the entire space is dark and all of it is night; so the day accompanies the night and does not leave it
    m Therefore, the sun swims or floats in the space and circles around the fixed star which gravitates it, the moon swims in the space and circles around the earth, and the earth swims in the space and spins around its axis so that the night and day will form from its spinning, and it circles around the sun and so the four seasons will form
    So blessed be God the Lord of the worlds, the Creator of suns and moons and the Maker of the night and day, as a mercy to the worlds and a bounty to the grateful
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    Qur'an 91:1-2
    1
    I swear for the future] by the sun and the severe heat of its noon-time a
    2
    And by the moon when it will follow the [sun!] b
    ………………………………………………………………….
    a When the sun is in the middle of the sky at noon time
    The meaning: I swear by that long day in which the sun will shine and will not set afterwards, but will remain for one thousand years searing the earth with its heat, and evaporating the sea water and burn the trees and kills the living animals and cattle
    So there will not remain for you any food to eat or water to drink other than only the bitter and salt well water
    Then who will save you from the chastisement of that day and from its heat? It is the day when the earth will stop its axial rotation
    b Similar to this is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 75: 9, which means
    And the sun and moon are joined together
    The reason for this is that the moon is gravitated by the earth, and it circles around it; the reason for the gravity is the heat which is in the core of the earth; so when this heat will finish by the passing of years, the earth gravity will also finish, and so [the influence of] the sun gravity on the moon will increase, and it will draw the moon towards itself and the moon will unite with it
    Anyhow, the interpreter Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly said: I have fully explained about this topic in my book The Universe and the Quran
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    Qur'an 21:33

    33. And it is He Who created the night and the day h, and the sun and the moon i. Each [of the planets and their satellites] is swimming [in the space] in an orbit j
    …………………………………………………………………….
    h Because of the spinning of the earth around itself
    i For heat, light and other advantages
    j i.e. each one of these objects circles in its orbit: the planets circle around the sun, the moons circle around the planets, and the sun spins round itself from right to left; so all of them is in continuous movement. The ‘orbit’ means the circle in which the object moves a complete circle
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    Qur'an 31:29
    The reason for revealing the following aya
    When the Muslims saw that victory against the associaters was delayed for them in the beginning, His saying – be glorified – was revealed
    29
    Have you [Mohammed] not seen how God causes the night to pass into the day, and causes the day to pass into the night a, and has subjected the sun b and the moon c; each moving [in its orbit] to an appointed term d; and that God is All-Aware of what you [Muslims] do? e
    ……………………………………………………………………………………..
    The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly
    a i.e. each one of them is introduced into the other, because of the earth spinning around its axis
    The meaning: Don’t hasten, Mohammed, about victory; for days and months will pass and victory will shortly come
    This is confirmed by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 2: 214, which means
    (So that the messenger [of God] and those who believed with him said: 'When will the help of God come
    [The messenger would answer them:] 'Surely, the help of God is approaching
    b For the day light and forother advantages
    c To give light by night, and for counting days and months
    d It means: Till a stated time in which their lives will end and their movements will stop
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